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Sunday, May 27th, 2007

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    Letter to a NRI Hubby

    Letter to a NRI Hubby



    I often answer questions from harassed husbands. I am blogging some of these, sans identifying details


    Dear NRI Hubby

    These days I come across 100s if not 1000s of FALSE extortion cases and FALSE dowry cases. Courts have condemned this. The law that was made to protect the woman, seems to be grossly mis-used to extract money from innocent men or to wreck vengeance. I'm saddened to hear your story.

    Do not think you are the only one affected. There are 10s of 1000s of FALSE cases all over India.

    .....Subject to my idea of *self help* which is very essential : http://tinyurl.com/pxcfz and standard disclaimers as in http://tinyurl.com/947u9

    ... may I suggest
    ---------------------------

    >
    >We have lot of disputes since our marriage.
    >
    >despite of our regular request she is living
    >with her parents with my child and used to
    >blackmail me socially/economically/mentally and
    >now legally also.

    Ignorance of Law and lack of social awareness is the biggest problem facing Indian men

    We all suffer today because a few years ago, we ourselves as youngsters DID NOT FIGHT AGAINST, did not do road rokos and morchas against the rampant rise of radical feminism in India

    Over the last 20 + years feminists have been fighting, fighting against Men, fighting against women who support men, fighting with FALSE statistics of dowry deaths and cheating husbands running away overseas and so on

    Now they have armed themselves with laws that are TOTALLY ONE SIDED and still majority of the men continue to pity women .....

    ...... and the sad part is that well educated men are also in the same boat, worried about their DAILY LIFE rather than the larger canvass, the society ... the family ... the well being of MEN tomorrow

    Even in the internet Era, we (a group of husbands hit by dowry law), have repeatedly written about misuse. No one cares till it is rather serious

    ref Blog post titled : Wake up !! or else your son may be the NEXT target !!!
    http://bareact.blogspot.com/2007/01/wake-up-or-else-your-son-may-be-next.html
    or http://tinyurl.com/37n5tv

    I hardly get comments of support even while writing these !!

    Having said all the above, let me continue with some specific comments to your mail. please read below


    Prove that she deserted you and you did NOT throw her out

    >Since last two year we are
    >not living together and even dont have any
    >telephonic conversation as i was totally
    >frustrated with the behaviour of my Wife and
    >inlaws.
    >

    Do you have any proof that she left willfully ? for e.g. did you send her letters by registered post or courier with ack. due, requesting her to come back ?? I am NOT sure if you understand this but let me tell you, MOST unscrupulous WOMAN turn up at police stations and claim that their hubbies have DESERTED THEM and run away abroad.

    do NOT worry if you do NOT have such proof, but I am taking the time to explain the situation to you

    These false complaints of desertion are compounded by myriad FALSE news paper reports which claim that NRI hubbies have deserted Indian women... again .... MEN DO NOT FIGHT such false reports

    Just search THIS MONTHS news alone and you will get multiple URL and some from Punjab as well of such cases . I am posting just three of them below for sake of brevity


    Cells to redress plight of women deserted by NRI husbands
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Cells_to_redress_plight_of_women_deserted_by_NRI_husbands/articleshow/2057446.cms
    or
    http://tinyurl.com/2h8ygm



    Non Reliable Indian grooms under vigil
    http://www.saharasamay.com/samayhtml/articles.aspx?newsid=74505
    or
    http://tinyurl.com/23wca7



    Cells for Non Reliable Indian husbands soon
    http://www.saharasamay.com/samayhtml/Articles.aspx?NewsId=75597
    or
    http://tinyurl.com/272gcr


    Give up Fear

    >At present i am in (abroad) since last three
    >months and pursuing ____ __________
    >__________ fully funded by _____________
    >When she came to know about this she just
    >lodged a FIR in women Cell, _____ against
    >all my family members including me also. Now
    >guide me what i should do. She just want to
    >spoil my career.
    >

    First. Give up fear

    Indians have fought against British cannons and mughal invaders

    I'm totally surprised that you should start shivering ...that too for a false case

    Counter her complaint

    Here are some simple steps on what to do

    1. Get a lawyer in _in_your_hometown_

    2. Get that lawyer to approach the CAW cell and get a copy of the complaint. Do NOT tell him that you cannot come back..., that your entire life is in danger ...blah blah blah ....

    3. some one has lodged a false case, get a copy of that complaint AND APPLY FOR BAIL FOR ALL THOSE IN INDIA

    4. Thanks to the activities of the Save Indian family foundation and 498a org etc even judges are fully aware of the misuse of DOWRY LAW and FALSE complaints by women

    5. So DO NOT PANIC...DO NOT. FULL STOP ....

    6. APPLY FOR A BAIL. FREEDOM IS YOUR BIRTH RIGHT AS YOU ARE INNOCENT.
    Read case laws where courts have granted bail. One of them is posted here
    http://vinayak.jconserv.net/viewtopic.php?t=24


    7. Read about the law, read more and more about the ground realities and update yourself of the ground realities



    >My (Education / Job) if for ___years and
    >i wants to finish it at any cost /stay abroad
    >in any condition as i really worked very hard
    >to earn this _______________.
    >

    Every man has two responsibilities. One personal and other social. I do NOT have to tell you, the importance of his social responsibility.

    I am really impressed by your personal achievements. I am sure you are ready to serve the society as well.

    Since this is our first mail / interaction and we do NOT know each other much I am eagerly awaiting your reply on how you wish to serve the society

    >Is there any chances of cancellation of my
    >_______________ and go back to India,
    >

    NIL....IF YOU FIGHT BACK

    So, bottom-line is, ".. Never run away .."

    Never give them a chance to prove that you are a deserter

    >In any case i does not want to continue the
    >relationship with her due to some reasons which
    >are unexplainable.
    >
    >I need a divorce.
    >

    DO NOT .....DO NOT file for divorce

    Read here for why ?
    http://bareact.blogspot.com/2006/12/divorce-why-now.html
    or
    http://tinyurl.com/y6a4cj


    >I have not taken any thing from her stri dhan
    >every thing is in her custody including our
    >family Jewellary but i am not worried about
    >that.
    >My main concern is towards my Family members
    >what should be next course of action from our
    >side as the woman cell has issued a notice to
    >appear on ___ / _____. My father is a govt.
    >employee, me also and ___ youngerbrothers
    >pursuing their studies. It is also a matter of
    >their future. So kindly guide me.
    >

    GET A BAIL FOR YOUR PARENTS

    THEY SHOULD NOT GET HIT IN THE CROSS FIRE

    READ MORE BELOW

    Bail / anticipatory bail
    ----------------------------------------------------

    When a complaint has been made and registered in police, CAW cell etc. try to get the copy and apply for Anticipatory bail, [file for court notice for protection or stay of arrest] whatever applicable as per your state

    At any cost you or your family member(s) should not surrender to police

    Once you are able to get the bail , THE OPPOSITE PARTY will be under pressure.

    The opponent's very tactic is to arrest you. As you are innocent and in most cases you may not have even stepped into a police station you will be shocked.

    They will try to use this shock to ill treat you, wreck vengeance or extract money from you

    STAY COOL !! STAY FOCUSED. Get an anticipatory bail - IF the case is already filed. Once you are free and out you can fight your honest case

    Always ask the bail for family members first (except husband) .

    Once the same achieved , then apply for the bail for husband in lower court , lower court will may reject it , move to session court ( may reject it ) , move to high court ( may reject it ) , then move to supreme court , we are here to help you out.

    Normally at the High court level itself you should be in a position to get a bail. The HC know that the Supreme Court Judges are not fools.

    Even In case of TADA/POTA people get bail, this is just a family dispute - so DO NOT panic

    While these procedures might seem costly it is nothing compared to paying ransom to an un scrupulous female who tries to arrest you



    >Right now i dont have any telephone no., but
    >kindly give me your contact no. so that my
    >family members can contact you in India / USA
    >

    I have given ALL INDIAN and US help line nos at the end of my mail


    >How long it will take to get rid of that
    >greedy lady.
    >
    >Should i file a divorce case.
    >

    In this game, haste is waste

    DO NOT .....DO NOT file for divorce

    Read here for why ?
    http://bareact.blogspot.com/2006/12/divorce-why-now.html
    or
    http://tinyurl.com/y6a4cj



    >But my first priority is of well being of my
    >family and tension free continuous study.
    >
    >Can _________ stop my funding on just her
    >complained.
    >

    AS I SAID EARLIER, NIL IF YOU FIGHT BACK

    This is a fight of good vs evil. Every fight counts

    Countless men have won this battle

    Many more have run away and are living in shame

    You choose ....



    >These are very much question due to which i
    >cannot sleep. my whole career is on the stake.
    >
    >Please guide me.
    >
    >Thanking you
    >
    >Yours Truly
    >NRI Hubby
    >
    >
    >

    I am also copying this mail to some of our dedicated volunteers


    HELP LINE NOS
    ----------------------


    All India Helpline Number: 91-92434 73794 (24 Hours)
    alternate Nos : 91-9810611534 or 91-80-65334135

    Volunteer Helpline Numbers (limited contact hours)
    Also at : http://tinyurl.com/2dewon
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    _in_your_hometown_: 9911119113, 9810611534, 9891369616 (Rajeev)

    Kanpur (and U.P.): 09335014984 (Aanand), 09935239764 (Lt.Col.(Retd.) C.S.Khandelwal)

    Calcutta:
    Mr. Vineet Ruia - 033-25347398 , 033-25217318 - 8:30 to 10 PM ONLY
    Mr. Kamlesh K Dwivedi - 9231835462
    Mr. D.S.Rao - 9830151555
    Mr. Suman Chatterjee - 9830927619

    Bangalore:
    *Asha Kiran*, 1252/6, P.M. Lakshmia Layout,
    Magdi Cord Road Layout , 1 st Main, Vijay Nagar.
    Bangalore 560 040.
    Helpline: 91-80-65334135
    Mobile : 9845986250

    Mumbai: 9869323538 (Guptaji) / (helpline) 9224335577
    Ahmedabad: 9898989884
    Gujrat: 09825365816

    Hyderabad :
    Prasad : (9848280354) kollud@yahoo.com (Miyapur, Hyderabad)
    Prakash: (9948504037) victim498a@gmail.com (BHEL, Hyderabad)
    Pavan Kumar: (9985858729) yangaldaspk@yahoo.com (Hyderabad)
    Dr. Sreedhar: (9908578457) ameresree@yahoo.com (Secunderabad)

    Jaipur: 09352562456
    Nasik: 9371988132

    United States (USA): 650-430-9544, 612-812-4340 (Avro, call between 10PM to midnight Eastern )


    Please note this help / service is based on a self help concept. We share our experiences here. We do NOT just advise you TO take one path or another. DECISIONS are yours, but we suggest some ideas based on our experience.

    If you wish to get maximum benefit from writing to us, It is also IMPORTANT THAT YOU READ AND UNDERSTAND the law with us.

    You may also join the following groups, read the archives, post your queries and seek clarifications. [Please note that the yahoo groups are OPEN forum and so take care of confidentiality]

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saveindiansociety/
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saveindianfamily/



    More after hearing from you


    regards, vinayak

    My post above is Subject to
    ----------------------------
    1. My idea of *self help* which is very essential : http://tinyurl.com/pxcfz
    2. Standard disclaimers as in http://tinyurl.com/947u9
    3. A short preamble : http://tinyurl.com/hatew

    Dowry Law Misuse : http://tinyurl.com/tdkx6 , http://tinyurl.com/v5vp8

    Groups :

    http://groups.google.com/group/MatriSuggest
    http://groups.google.com/group/SIFsuggest


    Blogs :

    http://bareact.blogspot.com/2006/12/divorce-why-now.html
    http://tinyurl.com/2tb3s7
    http://tinyurl.com/2dkub4
    http://tinyurl.com/23xppp

    http://vinayak.jconserv.net/index.php

    http://www.bloglines.com/blog/eVinayak
    http://bareact.blogspot.com/
    http://my2cw.blogspot.com/
    http://o3.indiatimes.com/mera/
    http://www.blurty.com/users/vinayak/

    Seek advise : All India contact Nos : http://tinyurl.com/vntjz

    >
    >----- Original Message ----
    >From: "address_changed@yahoo.co.in"
    >
    >To: e_vinayak@yahoo.com
    >Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:58:46 AM
    >Subject: Advice Please - NRI Hubby -
    >
    >Name: NRI Hubby
    >Email: address_changed@yahoo.co.in
    >Hear about us: GoogleSearch
    >498A Registered: NO
    >498A Place:
    >498A Date:
    >Any Other IPCs:
    >Relatives Accused:
    >Jailed Days: NO
    >Stage of Case: inWomenCell
    >Spent Money on 498A:
    >Lived in joint Family: NO
    >Marriage Date: _______ 2003
    >Wife Age:
    >Wife's Education Level: ____
    >Wife works (earns)?: works
    >Filed for Divorce: NO
    >Have children: YES
    >Living With Wife: NO
    >Negotiating with Wife: NO
    >Took her Stridhan Back: YES
    >She had Any Medical Problems: NO
    >Willing to Help other Victims: YES
    >Ready for TV/Press Interivew : YES
    >Contact No:
    >Comments:
    >
    >We have lot of disputes since our marriage.
    >
    >despite of our regular request she is living
    >with her parents with my child and used to
    >blackmail me socially/economically/mentally and
    >now legally also. Since last two year we are
    >not living together and even dont have any
    >telephonic conversation as i was totally
    >frustrated with the behaviour of my Wife and
    >inlaws.
    >
    >At present i am in (abroad) since last three
    >months and pursuing ____ __________
    >__________ fully funded by _____________
    >When she came to know about this she just
    >lodged a FIR in women Cell, _____ against
    >all my family members including me also. Now
    >guide me what i should do. She just want to
    >spoil my career.
    >
    >
    >My Ph.D is of ___ years and i wants to finish it
    >in any condition as i really worked very hard
    >to earn this _______________.
    >
    >Is there any chances of cancellation of my
    >_______________ and go back to India,
    >
    >In any case i does not want to continue the
    >relationship with her due to some reasons which
    >are unexplainable.
    >
    >I need a divorce.
    >
    >I have not taken any thing from her stri dhan
    >every thing is in her custody including our
    >family Jewellary but i am not worried about
    >that.
    >
    >My main concern is towards my Family members
    >what should be next course of action from our
    >side as the woman cell has issued a notice to
    >appear on ___ / _____. My father is a govt.
    >employee, me also and ___ youngerbrothers
    >pursuing their studies. It is also a matter of
    >their future. So kindly guide me.
    >
    >Right now i dont have any telephone no., but
    >kindly give me your contact no. so that my
    >family members can contact you in India / USA
    >
    >
    >How long it will take to get rid of that
    >greedy lady.
    >
    >Should i file a divorce case.
    >
    >But my first priority is of well being of my
    >family and tension free continuos study.
    >
    >Can _____ stop my funding on just her
    >complained.
    >
    >These are very much quetion due to which i
    >cannot sleep. my whole career is on the stake.
    >
    >Please guide me.
    >
    >Thanking you
    >
    >Yours Truly
    >NRI Hubby
    >
    >
    >

    12:29p
    Seven-yr-old faces dowry charges
     

    Seven-yr-old faces dowry charges

    Sameer Kumar, Abhay Mohan Jha
    Saturday, May 26, 2007 (Begusarai)


    A seven-year-old has been charged in a dowry case in Bihar. Santosh, a class four student has paid the price for a crime he did not commit.


    ''They framed me in a dowry case. I study in class 4. Police came to my house and asked for money. They threatened to send me to Munger otherwise,'' he said.

    Santosh was named in a dowry harassment case last year along with his parents and his elder brother. His parents and brother got bail after his father reached a compromise with the complainant. But given Santosh's tender age, the court didn't pass any specific bail order in his name.

    Santosh's lawyer says there were serious lapses in the way the case was handled.

    ''The age of none of the accused has been mentioned in the entire case diary,'' said Vijay Maharaj. Police admit they made a mistake but say the witnesses in the case had a role to play.

    ''None of the witnesses mentioned that the accused is under age. I agree that we have made a mistake in this case,'' said Amit Lodha, SP, Begusarai.

    Police say Santosh can breathe easy irrespective of the outcome of the case. But this comes as cold comfort for someone who has learnt a bitter lesson so early in life.

    http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20070013361
    1:05p
    Marriage vow only when guy is from IT

    Marriage vow only when guy is from IT



    PTI[ SUNDAY, MAY 27, 2007 09:55:19 AM]

    CHENNAI: Fat pay packets, junkets and lavish lifestyle have made Information Technology professionals the most sought after in the matrimony market, leaving others to sweat it out to win a bride.

    "Until a decade ago, there was a great demand for grooms in banking sector as it was considered a secured and peaceful job. But today, the IT men are the hottest in the marriage market," says Murugavel Janakiraman, CEO of bharatmatrimony.com, a leading matrimony portal.

    While men generally settle down for a good-looking, educated and caring bride, women look forward to a spouse who is well settled, capable of providing financial security.

    With bulging pay packets and soaring career graph, the IT grooms are the ideal choice now, he adds.

    According to a recent survey, about 70 per cent of youngsters prefer arranged marriages, leaving their parents to have a major say in matrimonial matters.

    Surprisingly, grooms with government jobs are no more the favourites of elders and IT professionals have now become their blue-eyed boys.

    Shanmugam, a marriage broker, says people are even prepared to spend beyond their capacity on a lavish marriage and extra dowry for a groom in the IT field.

    Showing a bunch of biodata and horoscopes, he says about 70 per cent of them belong to IT professionals as the "demand" was very high. They are the popular choice even for girls in non-IT sectors, he adds.

    At the age of 24, an IT professional can easily afford an apartment, car and a comfortable living, which may be an uphill task for his peer in any other field.

    Shyam, a diploma holder working in a non-IT firm as systems engineer with almost nine years of experience, has been drawing a "decent salary" of Rs 16,000 per month.

    But, he learnt the ground realities the hard way when he started searching for a bride two years ago.

    "I was looking for an engineering graduate but I realised that my salary is not good enough to win a bride as the expectations are too high in the marriage market," he says.

    Pointing out that even freshers in the IT field are drawing around Rs 20,000 per month, his friends are advising him to switch over to that sector.

    Now in his late 20s, Shyam has joined part-time BE course to get a bride at least if not an IT job.

    The case of Ramachandran is no different. Working as a sub-editor in a media organisation, he is earning Rs 13,000 per month.

    "I've posted my biodata on matrimony websites, but the response has not been encouraging. And the very first query that raises is about my monthly salary," he rues.

    He feels educated well-salaried girls have now become out of reach for "commoners" like him.

    Though the IT boom has ushered in economic empowerment of lakhs of youngsters, it has also created an imbalance among the youth as privileged and under-privileged, he remarks.


    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Marriage_vow_only_when_guy_is_from_IT/RssArticleShow/articleshow/2077329.cms
    5:29p
    Ex VC's Daughter slaps Dowry case on her hubby, 13 years after marriage

    Ex VC's Daughter slaps Dowry case on her hubby, 13 years after marriage



    Son-in-law of Ex-VC Dr. Rudrappa held for dowry

    Mysore, May 22 (BLU&MRS)- The Women Police arrested this morning the son-in-law of former Mysore University Vice-Chancellor Dr. Y.P. Rudrappa in an alleged dowry harassment case.

    Dr. Y. Venkatesh, Reader in the Department of Library Sciences, Manasagangotri, was arrested in his Gangotri quarters with the assistance of Saraswathipuram Police.

    Dr. Sudha Rudrappa, wife of Dr. Venkatesh and daughter of Dr. Y.P. Rudrappa, had filed a complaint with the Women Police Station accusing him of harassing her for more dowry.

    Dr. Sudha, a paediatrician at K.R. Hospital, has alleged in her complaint that she married Dr. Venkatesh about 13 years ago and Rs. 1 lakh was paid to him along with jewellery as dowry at the time of wedding.

    Not satisfied with this, her husband continued to harass her to bring more dowry and it became unbearable in recent days, Dr. Sudha alleged.

    Dr. Venkatesh is being produced before the Court today.


    http://www.starofmysore.com/searchinfo.asp?search1=13112&search2=newsheadlines


    ========== end of news ========

    Comment : Is 1 lakhs really that big ? that too for an EX VC'ss daughter who is a pediatrician ? dal mE kuch kala hai ?

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