Monday, November 9th, 2009
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5:26 pm
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5:14 pm
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Okay....well I've just located my domain in the registry settings....and basically it's at the stage where I can put through a request to transfer, get the new hosting account set up....blah...blah...but at the moment the one thing really holding things up I think you would say, is finding a hosting company that's going to be moving in the same direction as we are in terms of services we are going to provide...and I have to say, we don't believe in just one company running music sites or one company running this or that...which it seems a lot of the current hosting company's are limiting things to. Of course I recognize there's issues with server availability..download sizes etc...but if Lipcrack is going to grow as an organization we need to be very aware of those issues....so that's what's going on at the moment......I'm not sure how long it will take to make a final decision...hopefully not longer than a week...things that are delaying it are organizations that don't offer 24 hr tech/sales support....basically that's integral to making a final decisions and I really don't think we should change our stance on that...and I think you'll find if we get round to implementing our own changes...we'll offer live chat....as a part of our ongoing growth...
So stick with us while we get this sorted out...
Thanks Lipcrack
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4:12 pm
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Okay, well I've found another three hosting companies that I'll need to check out...fact is, now....we're moving into territory whereby, we're paying the same money, but getting less for the dollar...e.g. many that I'm not checking don't come with 24/7 live chat....which is probably the most important thing a hosting company can offer.
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2:27 pm
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and now...well will check out another hosting company and then get to some edits...but that's about it for today.
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2:26 pm
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And called SATAC to let them no when reviewing my current details for entrance into University the site is down...so they will need time for that to be resolved.
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2:25 pm
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So in the meantime, called the post office and then called the lawyer as I hadn't received a document back re:documents sent. I ended up sending it registered post...so just checking up on that.
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1:34 pm
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Right so at the moment, I'm going through the process of getting the site somewhere...in terms of the current Registry, which I gather had leased out part of it's business...maybe?? not yet determined...
Basically I'm going to move the domain and park it somewhere, and renew the domain, while a new hosting company is decided upon.
obviously I'm a little peeved off at the moment...but I'm not going with a hosting company that I don't like....not that I'm going to like any of them really...given my experience with them...however there is one, that I probably should consider which I haven't.....
so who knows....but I'll check that out today. ....
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12:28 pm
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So. we're not going with the one I thought we would be going with.
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12:27 pm
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So first query questions...which instead of Sales was directed to Abuse and Terms of Service...
Kevin [7:20:36 PM]: Welcome to our real-time support area, my name is Kevin, how can I help you today?
Alena [7:20:36 PM]: Terms of service question
[7:21:11 PM]: Hello I am not a member of you're service however I have read the terms of service and would like to ask a couple of questions.
Kevin [7:22:06 PM]: sure, I'll answer what I can
Alena [7:22:41 PM]: content of Subscriber's web site(s). By submitting content
and data to BlueHost.Com, Subscriber grants to BlueHost.Com,
its successors and assigns, the worldwide, royalty-free, and
nonexclusive license under Subscriber's copyrights and other rights,
if any, in all material and content displayed in Subscriber's web site to use,
Kevin [7:23:15 PM]: this is in reference to people visiting your site, we do not own the rights to it
[7:23:25 PM]: it pretty much means, you allow your site to be viewed on the internet
[7:23:42 PM]: because when someone views your site, they are pretty much downloading a copy of it
Alena [7:24:13 PM]: Well as an owner of the site and material on the site, i don't assign copyright's to anyone.
Kevin [7:24:27 PM]: correct, the copyright is yours
[7:24:31 PM]: as the creator of the site
Alena [7:24:39 PM]: and it's content.
Kevin [7:24:43 PM]: yes
Alena [7:25:20 PM]:
distribute, display, reproduce, and create derivative works from such material
in any and all media, in order to maintain such content on BlueHost.Com's servers
during the term of these Terms.
[7:25:41 PM]: I wouldn't assing those right's to anyone.
Kevin [7:25:51 PM]: no
Alena [7:25:58 PM]: And I fail to to see how you're organization could suggest it.
Kevin [7:26:40 PM]: I'm not a legal representative, but from what I know, this has to do with allowing people to access your site
[7:27:12 PM]: when you have a site on the internet and someone visits it, their computer makes a copy of it and it ends up in their internet cache
Alena [7:27:20 PM]: So basically a legal representative hasn't written you're terms of service.
Kevin [7:27:31 PM]: so its saying you can't sue people for their computer making a copy of the site by visiting it
Alena [7:27:58 PM]: Well that's saying someone can take a copy of my work, and from it create anything they wish.
Kevin [7:28:13 PM]: no, I said, I am not a legal representative. I didn't write the terms of service
[7:28:32 PM]: but it was written by lawyers if thats what you are asking
Alena [7:29:05 PM]: well obviously it was written by lawyers with no regards to the law.
Kevin [7:30:32 PM]: well if you have questions beyond my abilities which are limited in this regard you can contact our legal department for clarification, they are found at legal@.com and are in from Monday through Friday 8 am to 5pm mountain time
Alena [7:31:05 PM]: and how can you possibley say that you're service does not allow me to send mail to purchased lists, you are in effect saying you prevent commerce or trade with the public.
Kevin [7:31:33 PM]: not at all, purchased lists are typically made through illegal means, we don't allow their use
[7:31:48 PM]: however if you create a list on your website from your viewers you can use that list
Alena [7:32:55 PM]: Actually I dispute that, what not reading the fine print of a contract or not understanding that by submitting to a service they assign the right's of their email to business groups wishing to purchase it for business purposes ?
Kevin [7:33:23 PM]: thats our rules, you have no obligation to use our services
Alena [7:33:31 PM]: that's right.
[7:34:28 PM]: but I can in terms of reporting include any thing you've mentioned for my readers to assess the level of service you really offer them
Kevin [7:35:23 PM]: no, I am not a legal representative and do not give my consent to publish any content of this chat
[7:36:44 PM]: you can post our terms of service which are located at
[7:36:51 PM]: this is public information
[7:37:15 PM]: what I have told you is my best understanding of this legal document, which as I've said, may or may not be accurate.
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11:27 am
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11:16 am
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So at this stage...I might just host it there for 30 day's and cancel the hosting and get a refund if they're going to make life difficult....like I said, finding an honest business on the web , is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
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11:11 am
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So basically there's about three things...that I think are kind of illegal at the moment...basically if someone put's there name on a list they agree to be contacted, yet they're saying "we do not allow purchased lists"...now if they're saying that to prevent competition in the marketplace, then they are in conflict with the law.
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11:06 am
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So I'm just reading a document regarding a link from the hosting company I'm considering's web site. They have a link to the Federal Trade Commission, and how's the irony, it goes on about "can't engage in false or misleading conduct", which I agree, yet the site list's 5 point's, and there's no scroll bar, fact is if you want to read the whole document you have to highlight and scroll the text, so that you can read the entire document.
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10:00 am
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Most likely the site will be moved again after this move..I'm not saying it will be....but in terms of finding the right host....you never know how it's going to turn out until you move it there...most likely by the end of all this I'll move it to another country...as yet undecided.
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9:37 am
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And just reading through the provisions of the new service in terms of hosting and in terms of domain name registration....you know it is very difficult to determine what one sign's in a contract is legal, and what in the contract is illegal itself....which is why it's a good idea to become a lawyer... I mean sometimes it just seems...that you're signing something which says....yes I allow you to mismanage my domain, I allow you to ruin my business....blah...blah...kind of like what's going on with the current provider...when in fact....i don't agree to that at all...
so what ever you sign you're put in a bit of a situation that most likely you don't agree with...but at the time have no control off...that in itself is an issue...and a question on ethics...
I mean i don't have a problem with their mail policy...but in terms of this avoidance of responsibility as a hosting company providing a service...well who know's how it's going to end...
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9:25 am
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I've just checked all mail files on the Lipcrack server, and no emails in the Webmaster account area accessible, although it clearly indicates that the mail are in there, via size of the mail box ......you know what is the fucking maturity level of the people running that service...it must be run be retards. ...or someone with something to cover up.
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8:47 am
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So just checked in and the site's still down, the error repost is coming back can't find host name using DNS, the domain name server may be down. So going to go through the conditions of the new host one last time, ask any questions and put through a final request to get the site moved....should take a couple of days...
That's about it...
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Sunday, November 8th, 2009
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10:49 pm
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so that's it...might start watching a movie...but that's it for the day...
goodnight.
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8:58 pm
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You want to know the really annoying thing though....somehow every time I visit a site, the browser in Vista/IE8 brings up a scripting platform that show's me every error on every web page I visit.....it's a pain in the ass.
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8:08 pm
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