Sonja (vegansonja) wrote, @ 2004-06-06 23:21:00

I think I know about four boys who don't think of themselves as hot. The rest are convinced that they are. *mild envy* *initiates crash diet*

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JUST KIDDING!!!!!! I'm too into living forever to do anything unhealthy. :) *greatly restricts caloric intake* :D

	(Anonymous) 2004-06-07 14:23 (link)
	Well I don't think of myself as that attractivre, I think I'm pretty good looking, but not great..Hope that makes you feel at least a little better. Studly Pete (Reply to this) (Thread)

	vegansonja 2004-06-07 16:32 (link)
	That's 'cause you're HAWTT, Pete-man. ... Jamie's hotter. :) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	beastofburden 2004-06-08 11:31 (link)
	Whoa! I'm hotter? You're the hottest, Baby. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	beastofburden 2004-06-07 15:45 (link)
	Um...I'm not a guy or so-called "boy"...but I certainly do not see myself as hot. I also dislike those boys that do think of themselves in such a way. It's very arrogant....and Clouse like. Grr..pisses me off. (Reply to this) (Thread)

vegansonja 2004-06-07 16:30 (link)

It seems to be an innate tendency of boy brains. Most boys will label themselves attractive, whereas most girls are bit more self-critical. I've noticed I haven't met many... or even any boys who think of themselves as average in appearance. They're always either self-described as attractive or hot...or completely hideous (I've, by the way, never met anyone I would consider ugly or hideous). Girls, on the other hand, seem rather quick to think of themselves as physically ordinary. I too seem drawn to the less confident boys... but I don't want to think of myself as someone who is attracted to self-loathing. ...and it seems I'm not. I learned that when I was with...that one boy. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

cobrabubbles 2004-06-07 20:39 (link)

I don't think I'm hideous. I wouldn't claim to be nearly remarkable enough to warrant "hideous." I'm just what I am, which is unattractive. Nothing to really be done about it. I know I'm not beastly, exactly, but I also know my appearance isn't what anyone really considers appealing. That's all there is to it, I guess. As far as boys I know particularly well go, there's only like one that would readily admit to being good looking (and lucky for him, he actually is). There's a lot more male self-criticism out there than you might think, really. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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cobrabubbles 2004-06-08 12:28 (link)

"See why"? :) I hope that was more a figure of speech than a question really directed at me. 'Cause...I sure as hell do see why objectification sucks! And given the kind of person I am, it upsets me a lot more when it's being done to women, anyway. Though you did have to go and bring up Johnny Depp, didn't ya? :) He's way the hell up there, if not the apex. Oh well, that's all that I have to say on these matters...so I'll let Mr. Elvis Costello close things up here. Adios, mon ami. "What shall we do with all this useless beauty?" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	vegansonja 2004-06-08 12:47 (link)
	Sincere apologies, Rich. I've been playin' casual with language lately (see "it's mostly only used..."). You can rest assured, I was free from curiosity as to whether or not you're cool with the objectification of nonobjects. :) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	beastofburden 2004-06-08 23:39 (link)
	Maybelline!!! So, that's the secret! I want some...unless it makes ya look like a man, and in that case, I don't need that. haha. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

edit vegansonja 2006-01-29 21:06 (link)

Honestly... I can think only of a handful of boys in my life who don't consider themselves awesomely attractive. ...or who haven't claimed to anyway. ...and (I'm about to introduce one aspect of my personality that I very much dislike)... Because I know that if all of the stuff that makes me think like me were stuck into someone else's body, I still would feel horribly unattractive.... it rather gets to me that other people can feel sooo damned happy with their physical selves. That isn't to say that I'm not happy for them. I just want to join them. :) Actually... no. I honestly don't. I want to be free from concern of such things. I want to live as though my physical appearance doesn't mean a damned thing to anyone. Concerns over such things are pointless. They only impair my ability to make uh... more useful... use of my time. Besides... I've come to realize that how others look really isn't significant to me at damn all. ...even in my crushes and the like. I mean... yes, I think Johnny Depp is a total beauty :), but only one of my big life's crushes (everybody! "The love of my life, Blah Blahblahblah") was someone who I found particularly attractive physically prior to developing my stupid little affection. Damn, I'm such a weirdo. :) Honestly. It's almost like I'm not human... but then I soooooo fucking am (it's annoying as hell). ... So... I have a superficial side, but it's mostly only used in judging myself. ... and the bar is set high. I could tone myself brilliantly and have all of my flaws surgically deflawed... and still I would worry that I'm repulsive. ...but it isn't something that I spend a huge amount of time thinking about. It's just one of the more senselessly unhappy topics that occasionally runs through my head. :) Anyway, you aren't unattractive, damn it. Seriously. ...and if there really is as much "male self-criticism" on such matters as you say... that bites. ...but see why objectification of ANYONE (though women is a common one) is soooo goddamnfucking annoying? Yeah. People... stop that. :) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2004-06-08 09:35 (link)
	I didn't know I was HAWWWT...and thanks for the compliment. You're pretty damn hot yourself.... Studly Pete (Reply to this) (Thread)

	vegansonja 2004-06-08 12:21 (link)
	Thanks, Pete-man, but I'd rather just not think about how I look. :D Plus, it's been a damn long time. You're workin' with old data... or something. I had a very elaborate dream last night that involved people saying, "old data" a lot. :) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2004-06-08 13:33 (link)
	Well I highly doubt that you could have become some hideously deformed creature in this short of a time span. As for the "old data: maybe you should refresh my memory with some "new data". Until then, I think I'll go with the old data, and according to that,..you're quite the looker. Studly Pete (Reply to this) (Thread)