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forlorn (iodine) wrote in thecoffeehouse,
@ 2003-07-11 17:05:00
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    Current mood: curious

    abortion.
    How does everyone feel about abortion? I think there are certain circumstances where it may be necessary, but I think there are better options like adoption after the child is born, and I think that abortion is too often used as a form of birth control. Rather than having the baby and making it feel unwanted and abusing it, or killing it after it's alive, or leaving it to die on the streets though, I think abortion is a better option. One thing I don't understand is condemning abortion and going to kill the abortion doctors. How effective is that? Death for death is a bit of a hypocritical notion in this case. What does everyone think?



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kadiliman
2003-07-11 17:23 (link)
Tough subject here...but I'll bite.

I believe that abortion is simply wrong and I've still have not heard of an argument that would convince me otherwise.

For example,
Rather than having the baby and making it feel unwanted and abusing it,
Life is tough, that's not a good enough reason. Would you support euthanization of abused kids?

or killing it after it's alive,
I believe in that in abortion, you're killing someone that is alive. If it's not alive, then there's no point in discussing the matter.

or leaving it to die on the streets, I think abortion is a better option
Death is death, no difference.

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Yikes
sillyangel
2003-07-11 17:54 (link)
Ok...Against my better judgement, I'll comment, but I don't want any hate messages sent to me. It irritates me more than anything for simply hating a person for what they believe in. But I agree completely with you. There was a big protest on my campus against abortion. Then there was a message in the paper about a girl who felt bad because they compared girls who had gotten abortions to Hitler. She said she was raped, got pregnant, and got an abortion. Personally, I would too. I agree with you in every way though. So congratulations on your guts to post that message. I'll follow your lead. :-)

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beforemytime
2003-07-12 03:12 (link)
I'll dive in . . .

I'm pro-choice, adamantly, and without apology.

The fetus while it is inside a woman, is part of her body, and it is her choice. And while I dislike the "abortion as birth control" I do agree with Anne Nicol Gaylor when she says "Abortion is a Blessing". And while many may gasp at that statement, I will stand by that idea.

To suggest a raped woman be forced to carry a child that is a symbol of her victimization, and a child that she did not chose to have is horrendous to say the least.

Teenagers who get pregnant, can risk being beaten or kicked out of their homes by angry parents. And to those who say "they should have thought about that before having sex" should remember that the boyfriends of these girls seldom have to face this torment. This is why I’m against parental notification laws.

Rural women, who have already had many children, should not be made to carry a child they cannot physically or mentally bear. And yes, the clinic near here does try to make sure that these women are given some form of birth control.

Outlawing abortion with not stop it. Anyone who thinks that is a fool. Outlawing abortion will only bring it to the back alleys.

Call me evil. Call me a feminazi. It's a good chance I've heard it before.

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My Take On Abortion
wildhope
2003-07-14 11:05 (link)
Okay first of all, yes I am pro-choice. But I chose to view it at a different angle. I myself, do not think I could ever bring myself to have an abortion, I don't think that it is the right decision for me and it conflicts with my morals. BUT, I will never say that it is not the right choice for everyone. Just as we, as people have the freedom to choose what we believe in spiritually and morally NO one has the right to tell me or you what is "right" for you. Some people believe that there are better options out there, others believe that they deserve a fresh start, and that is their answer to a new beginning. Now I know and don't agree with the fact that some people have numerous abortions and use it as birth control. My view on these people is that they haven't learned from their mistakes and hopefully one day will. But if they believe that it is right for them at that moment then fine, that is their choice (or mistake as most would see it). We don't always make the best choices in life, smoking, alcoholism, divorce/marriage, etc. but it all comes down to the fact that we have the option to do this. Maybe it is not a positive concept but we learn from our mistakes and we all have different beliefs. So why not let me, you or anyone else choose. What gives you the right to think you can tell me what I should believe in?

DISCLAIMER: I know that everyone sees this issue differently, just respect the fact that this is MY OPINION. I am not saying that this is right or what you should think, this is how I think, so don’t get defensive if you disagree with me.

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Societal Pressure
striderranger
2003-11-25 08:25 (link)
What makes matters worse with the abortion issue is that it has become an option for everyone. Society almost makes you feel that you have an obligation to abort under certain circumstances:"Over 40-what was she thinking?","fourth child?", marriage problems, poverty, celebrity, professional, lost job, too young, not married. I have heard them all by people who never had an abortion but seem to think it is justifiable, albeit the "right" choice.
So who is really chosing here? Again, it's not the mother but society. To make a person feel guilty because they should have had an abortion is another problem. What seems a parents worse nightmare? Not that a promiscuous child will have an STD or negative self-esteem problem, but that she may become pregnant-the punishment for being in love or even "raped" by a boyfriend. I've heard parents of young teens and adults say "I've raised my kids I'm not helping to raise theirs" as a reason for abortion. Life is life whether it's a fetus or a child or a teen or an aging parent. Abortion should never be an option but now that it is people should be taught that it is an option that is never justified.
Deal with it is too simple an answer when having an unwanted pregnancy. There should be more emotional and moral support for mothers in precarious situations regardless of age or circumstance. Never look down on someone who had the courage to have a child in difficult circumstances but rather commend them. Help them positively without judgement. At a prayer group meeting an attendee noted that the church has "baby shower" type collections for unwed mothers and felt this was going too far. If life is precious it should be unconditional and celebrated all the time not only under socially acceptable circumstances. This type of thinking helps promote the idea that abortion is the only way out. For younger mothers who may feel like there is no one to turn to more criminal acts of violence may seem to be an option.
I guess the key is, in my opinion, is not to be anti-abortion, but Pro-Life!

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