STONEY (st0ney) wrote, @ 2005-02-11 18:42:00

Some demonising for you...
Luke Mitchell, 16 has been imprisoned for years. The scottish teen murdered his 14 year old girlfriend in June 2003. The judge sentencing him said "You have been convicted of a truly evil murder, one of the most appalling crimes that any of us can remember, and you will rightly be regarded as wicked."
Fair enough, but he then went on to blame Marilyn Manson (yeah, we do that over here too) and the boy's use of cannabis. He said that Manson had inspired the by with his series of watercolours depicting the 1947 murder of Hollywood actress Elizabeth Short http://www.marilynmansonartworkonline.com/mm.cgi/2mm_006.html . The two murders are quite different, but then again, it's a chance to blame Manson for the wayward behaviour of yet another disposable teen. As for being fuelled by cannabis to kill, unlikely. However, if Mitchell was already pre-disposed to being unable to distinguish between dreams and reality, then no matter if he listened to the Cheeky Girls and took nothing harder than sugar in his tea, he was going to cause trouble for someone.

megaphonic 2005-02-11 16:11 (link)

It really annoys me when people balme cannabis for violent acts like this and other people lap it up. It just shows up how biased they are and how little they actually know about the drug. One of the worst I saw was in Oz when a national paper equivelant to the guardian or telegraph etc put an article out reporting that teenage boys and young men that are high on cannabis are more than 8 times more likely to commit violent antisocial behaviour than those that aren't. How bloody stupid. (Reply to this) (Thread)

shakingthetree 2005-02-11 16:53 (link)

...teenage boys and young men that are high on cannabis are more than 8 times more likely to commit violent antisocial behaviour than those that aren't. I don't know... just about everyone I've ever seen stoned on pot (including myself) are reduced to gigglesome creampuffs. I think cannabis makes the world a much happier place. It's far less detrimental than alcohol, that's for sure... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

st0ney 2005-02-11 17:00 (link)

Yeah, these statistics actually come from the fact that (cant be bothered to look up the statistic, but it's about 80%) if young people arrested for, whatever, crimes have cannabis in their bloodstream. However, the statistic that isn't released is what other substances are in their bloodstream. Just about everyone has a smoke, and then some people have a drink, or some coke, or some heroin... or are maybe just bad apples anyway. And yes, I agree with smoking cannabis more than I do with drinking alcohol. If you could compare a bar in Margate at two in the morning with a coffeeshop in Amsterdam at two in the morning, you'd see what I mean. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	selly007 2005-02-11 22:39 (link)
	I'll second that. Although i don't take drugs these days and just drink alcohol now, it is definitely alcohol that encourages aggression and makes people want to hurt each other. Sometimes. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

st0ney 2005-02-12 05:17 (link)

Sometimes indeed, one has to remember that some people are just going to want to hurt others regardless of what they've been taking. Alcohol and other drugs may reduce inhibition and make them more likely to smash a barstool over someone, but the want to do that is already there. Guess we all know people who are quite happy to randomly lash out despite being sober. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

psycogirl 2005-02-12 06:08 (link)

cannibas is not as bad as they say it is. meth is out there. taking over. not a few weeks ago, some ten year old girl was walking home. went missing. amber alerts went out. they found her. in a creek not far from her home. why was she dead? well, because she walked by and some "meth heads" were making it. taking stuff from car to house. but, they got paranoid and kidnapped her. when they got her out of the truck, she took off, running away. she fell into the creek, with her hands tied behind her back... and they left her there to drown. okay. my point is... well, there are far more drugs out there, that are worse. meth being one of them. i have watched friends drown in their addictions to meth, coke and other drugs. i am a cannabis smoker. closet smoker at that. why? because it is a not accepted; same goes for cigarettes now a days... socially unacceptable. w/o cannibas on a regular basis. i am okay. i do not crave it. i put it down. i pick it up. IT has never. never. never. made me violent. You are starting to see a trend. People who commit crimes are blaming it on pot. antidepressants. and so on....... i guess i do not see why the United States does not just make it legal. They have far more better things to spend everyone's time and money on.... sorry...just a short rant. haha (skips off to smoke a cone) ;D lissa (Reply to this) (Thread)