Lancaster Assassins (lancsassassins) wrote, @ 2004-11-18 22:03:00

About 6pm Nick was shot in the hallway outside a Lurps meeting, hearing the sound of the explosion people stood on the other side of the glass door turned to see what was happening and saw CDS leaving the sceen.

About 10pm Beaker was shot in a room in Lons...damn it...Bowland North, though others did hear the shot they saw nothing and by the time they arrived on the scene the assassin was gone.


CDS is now blacklisted however due to the bad feelings on campus due to th recent rise in the death rate then if CDS is killed and that itself is witnessed the perpertrator will be blacklisted in turn.

*edit CDS has decided to quit assasin as I keep blacklisting her...she appears to think I am doing this unfairly...I obviously don't but in future people, just as a note, if you think I am being unfair to anybody or about anything please tell me as I don't wish to be and may be doing so accidentally / unconciously*

9cds 2004-11-18 18:13 (link)

Since most assassins nowadays aren't on lubbs, therefore having no access to the ASSASSIN conf, here's what I posted earlier on tonight: I'm starting to feel a bit disconcerted about the way people are treating assassin as something serious. It's a game. I play it for fun, and I hope everyone else does too (apart from penguin, who uses it as practice ;)) What is really getting to me are people refusing to drink things because they caught someone putting "poison" in there, being picky about witnesse rules. It's a _game_. If you're dead you're dead. Get over it. Once again i'm considering if it's worth playing anymore, if all it does is end up in childish "nar nar! You got witnessed! nerrrrr!!" comments all the time. I know this is only going out to a small minority of assassins, since most players are first years who aren't lubbers. Which makes communication between assassins a little hard. (Reply to this) (Thread)

lancsassassins 2004-11-19 07:41 (link)

If the kill is witnesses then it still means the target is dead. If you see somebody messing with your drink you're not going to drink it to find out what it is, and if you are seen putting something into somebody's drink then you have a messed up kill. With poisoning you shouldn't know until after you have eaten / drunk some that the poison is in there. The point of witnesses was to make it harder / more interesting. I think you'd find it much more fun playing killer instead, I don't believe they have a no innocent / witnesses rule in that. Otherwise I believe it is fairly similar. And regards your email, I'm not aware of 'abusing my power', I'm making decisions and running the game, that's what my post is for. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

bodybagpilgrim 2004-11-19 10:53 (link)

Because drinking something you saw a man spike is cool. WTF? You DON'T DO THAT, regardless of whether you're in assassin or not. In fact, half the amusement of hearing assassins use poison for me is that the victim will hopefully realise it could have been spiked just as easily and people need to be aware of that. As to witnesses - if there are witnesses, you're wanted. That's a rule. You play a game, you play be the rules. Pretty simple. If that means it ain't the game you thought it was, then it ain't the game you thought it was. But that's the game it IS, and the people who remember that are the ones who were playing the game right. You were cheating. Because you broke a rule, and breaking a rule's cheating. Simple. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

9cds 2004-11-19 12:15 (link)

WTF? You DON'T DO THAT, regardless of whether you're in assassin or not. In fact, half the amusement of hearing assassins use poison for me is that the victim will hopefully realise it could have been spiked just as easily and people need to be aware of that. There are other ways of killing someone, many which are "demonstrated" in assassin. You can kill someone IRL just as easily as you can kill someone in assassin. It's quite easy to kill someone if you really wanted to. If you think people need to be more aware of drink spiking, I suggest you run for some kind of ed and welfare officer. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

erfalaswen 2004-11-19 13:11 (link)

You are aware that Tom is no longer a student and can't actually run in the Sabbatical Elections, right? Or did you not bother to check your facts on that one? And in case you hadn't noticed, Lancaster has a really effective drink spiking campaign. So effective that the local clubs asked LUSU to go and re-run their campaign in their own premises to raise awareness of the problem. I've noticed you have a tendency to do this a lot. You deflect queries by answering with other queries. Tom offers up a warning about drink spiking. You, rather than acknowledging what is essentially good advice, answer with a snarky comment about how if that's his only concern he should stand for election. Sorry, CDS, but that manner of reply just strikes me as being rude, particularly when it comes to something as serious as this! (Sorry but drink spiking is an issue particularly close to my heart, since two of my friends from home have had their drinks spiked with Speed and ended up in hospital. I'm not keen for it to happen to any more of my friends, and I don't appreciate it when people try to imply that this is just an election issue and shouldn't be referred to in 'real life') Raising awareness of drink spiking issues is something that needs to be done all the time, not just during Uni campaigns (election or issue based). And if anything, the witnesses during assassin are at their *most* valuable when it comes to watching out for drink spiking in pubs. There is the chance, after all, that they will one day spot someone *really* sticking something in someone's drink. And if they spotted someone putting something in your drink, I bet you'd want to be the first to know about it. Sorry if the witnesses spoil your fun along the way, but from what I can gather, it's you who's being petty about this issue. The other people are just playing the game and having fun. When it comes to games of the role play type, or games like assassin, rules are part of what make the game fun in the first place. Because they stop arguments that happen in the playground. When in a role play game, the GM has the last word on the rules. That's the way it goes, and that's generally accepted within LURPS. While Naomi is taking responsibility for running the game, her interpretation of the rules is effectively law. If you don't like it, leave the game. There is no room to complaining here. 'Course, if you'd like to put in the time and effort to run and co-ordinate another game of assassin next term and provide your own interpretation of the rules - that's fine. But don't underestimate how much time and effort does go into managing something like this. If you think you can do better, go ahead and try. But when someone is putting in their own free time and effort to run a game for the enjoyment of other people when they're under no obligation to do so (Nai isn't on the exec and isn't even a student any more after all, so all the more credit to her), it's a little rude for the players to complain and mess the GM around with comments like 'I'm considering leaving the game'. Make up your mind one way or the other. Stop wasting Nai's time. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

9cds 2004-11-19 13:38 (link)

You are aware that Tom is no longer a student and can't actually run in the Sabbatical Elections, right? Or did you not bother to check your facts on that one? I don't know tom. And yes, I did make a vague attempt of finding out information about him. And as far as I'm aware, there aren't any student sabbs. Lancaster has a really effective drink spiking campaign. So effective that the local clubs asked LUSU to go and re-run their campaign in their own premises to raise awareness of the problem. Great! I never said they didn't, because I don't know how effective it was. But it's nice to hear LUSU are doing a good job. I've noticed you have a tendency to do this a lot. You deflect queries by answering with other queries. How can you comment on me when you don't even know me? You know nothing about me! You, rather than acknowledging what is essentially good advice, answer with a snarky comment about how if that's his only concern he should stand for election. Sorry, CDS, but that manner of reply just strikes me as being rude, particularly when it comes to something as serious as this! (Sorry but drink spiking is an issue particularly close to my heart, since two of my friends from home have had their drinks spiked with Speed and ended up in hospital. I'm not keen for it to happen to any more of my friends, and I don't appreciate it when people try to imply that this is just an election issue and shouldn't be referred to in 'real life') I never said it wasn't a serious issue. You don't know what issues I consider serious, because again, you know nothing about me. And if anything, the witnesses during assassin are at their *most* valuable when it comes to watching out for drink spiking in pubs. There is the chance, after all, that they will one day spot someone *really* sticking something in someone's drink. And if they spotted someone putting something in your drink, I bet you'd want to be the first to know about it. Sorry if the witnesses spoil your fun along the way, but from what I can gather, it's you who's being petty about this issue. I am not being petty about being witnessed putting something in someone's drink. I was complaining that the person actually seriously refused to drink said drink. I am trustworthy, and I am not exagerating when I say I really, really, REALLY dislike being accused of not being trustworthy. Ever. By anyone. It's a very good way of losing my friendship forever. And that is hard to do. The other people are just playing the game and having fun. They really weren't. It wasn't fun anymore. Thats why I quit. When it comes to games of the role play type, or games like assassin, rules are part of what make the game fun in the first place. Because they stop arguments that happen in the playground. When in a role play game, the GM has the last word on the rules. That's the way it goes, and that's generally accepted within LURPS. While Naomi is taking responsibility for running the game, her interpretation of the rules is effectively law. If you don't like it, leave the game. There is no room to complaining here. It's the spirit of the rules that's more important. Not the rules. Because of this, i'm discarding this paragraph and moving on. 'Course, if you'd like to put in the time and effort to run and co-ordinate another game of assassin next term and provide your own interpretation of the rules - that's fine. If there is sufficient want for a another round next term, and naomi doesn't want to co-ordinate it, I would be more than happy to do so if the need arises. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	dark_ambition 2004-11-22 15:14 (link)
	I've noticed you have a tendency to do this a lot. You deflect queries by answering with other queries. How can you comment on me when you don't even know me? But she does. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	9cds 2004-11-22 19:26 (link)
	She really doesn't... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	dark_ambition 2004-11-23 14:35 (link)
	There is, as far as I know, only one Erfalaswen in this world. Thus, she knows you. Whether she knows you really well is another matter. But she has seen you online often enough. [/pedantry] (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	bodybagpilgrim 2004-11-24 07:28 (link)
	There isn't another. It's a unique-generated user-ident and no one else has stumbled upon it randomly. Leastways, if they have they haven't registered. CDS - read dark_ambition's earlier post again. First, look up the definition of the word 'irony'. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

bodybagpilgrim 2004-11-24 07:31 (link)

The other people are just playing the game and having fun. They really weren't. It wasn't fun anymore. Thats why I quit. I expect swift publication of your evident breakthrough in telempathic receiving and its medical/scientific justification. Evidently you would not make a statement about emotional states in other people without proof, and since people are capable of lying, spoken testimony is not enough. Certainly if you add a 'really' into the mix. Is this psychic power perhaps accessed by some form of philtre or elixir? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

9cds 2004-11-19 13:39 (link)

But don't underestimate how much time and effort does go into managing something like this. If you think you can do better, go ahead and try. But when someone is putting in their own free time and effort to run a game for the enjoyment of other people when they're under no obligation to do so (Nai isn't on the exec and isn't even a student any more after all, so all the more credit to her), I think this proves finally that you know nothing about me. Do you have any idea how many execs I have ran for, or been in; or any work I have volenterely done for socities or JCR's? I have put in a lot of my time and effort for societies and JCRs. Some not my own! it's a little rude for the players to complain and mess the GM around with comments like 'I'm considering leaving the game'. Make up your mind one way or the other. Stop wasting Nai's time. That message was posted on the ASSASSIN conference in lubbs about an hour before I quit assassin. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

pen_pen 2004-11-20 09:41 (link)

I'd just like to reiterate that the GM's interpretation is final. The written rules on the website are not counted a "law", but her words about them are. We haven't been playing exactly following the written rules, we have been playing to her modified version of thenm. The modifications have been stated on this journal, and the rules will eventually be updated to take this into account. Speaking of not everyone here being on LUBBS (members of Assassin who are on LUBBS but not on the ASSASSIN conference, please let me know and I'll sort you out), my reply to CDS on the subject of drinks was: "If _anything_ at all was put in my drink in assassin, I'd except a replacement personally - unless I was feeling in a particularly nice mood. I may offer the person who did it a drink in return though as well, for being sneaky enough to actually get something into my drink. ;)" If I saw someone put anything into my drink, no matter how harmless they may tell me it is, I wouldn't drink it. -- Penguin (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

bodybagpilgrim 2004-11-22 07:12 (link)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA... Wow. You REALLY don't know me. It's quite easy to kill... as if I didn't know... oh, dear. I'll be laughing all day. (I'm also remarkably easy to find on the Net in all four active and two discarded personas. Try harder.) For what it's worth, however, don't miss the point in a debate. It's not a cute way to set me up for some rhetorical fall. It's a good way of making you look like, well, you were dim enough to miss the point. If you DID just miss the point, I apologise and recommend you check my post again. As a hint, points tend to be summarised at the end, following the argument, so I'd try reading the whole thing. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	It's me again, Captain Amazing (Anonymous) 2004-11-19 18:20 (link)
	[b][i]I'm starting to feel a bit disconcerted about the way people are treating assassin as something serious. It's a game.[/b][/i] Irony senses... tingling... - Calum (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: It's me again, Captain Amazing (Anonymous) 2004-11-19 18:23 (link)
	*grumbles about screwing up tags* - Calum (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)