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This is a conversation with Rachel from last night about WICCAN. Jerit and my inclusion in this "religion" seems to have gotten out of hand. Lots of people have asked me why I'm "wiccan" now, or how they can join. Some people claim that it's a pagan religion. I'm starting to think that there are actually two wiccan cults because in this conversation Rachel keeps talking about earth worship and all. The World Institution of Catatonic Citizens Advocating Nazism is not earth-center. So I don't know what she's talking about. Enjoy.
ishotscooby (9:24:47 PM): what's jerit been up to for the past few days?
Led Ink (9:25:19 PM): he got into wiccan
ishotscooby (9:26:02 PM): really?
ishotscooby (9:26:07 PM): does he have a book or something
ishotscooby (9:26:11 PM): or are you totally screwing with me?
Led Ink (9:26:18 PM): no
Led Ink (9:26:21 PM): he doesn't need a book
Led Ink (9:26:32 PM): he met a girl who will be his mentor or something
ishotscooby (9:26:36 PM): oh..
Led Ink (9:26:41 PM): i don't know the specific terminology for that though
ishotscooby (9:26:52 PM): tell him we can talk of such things
ishotscooby (9:26:58 PM): i read into wicca
ishotscooby (9:27:02 PM): knew some wiccans
Led Ink (9:33:27 PM): really?
ishotscooby (9:34:44 PM): yeah
Led Ink (9:34:52 PM): i never thought you'd be into that
ishotscooby (9:35:07 PM): wicca is beautiful
Led Ink (9:35:26 PM): i'm sure some would disagree
Led Ink (9:35:29 PM): it's not very kosher
ishotscooby (9:35:41 PM): i know..
ishotscooby (9:35:44 PM): but if you look into it
ishotscooby (9:35:47 PM): its very beautiful
Led Ink (9:36:02 PM): i've looked into it a little..but not much
Led Ink (9:36:06 PM): i know the march and that's about it
ishotscooby (9:36:09 PM): people are always scared of the unknown
Led Ink (9:36:10 PM): but i think i may get some books on it
Led Ink (9:36:15 PM): i agree
ishotscooby (9:36:26 PM): its basically the worship of the earth..
ishotscooby (9:36:30 PM): as least thats how i looked at it
ishotscooby (9:36:33 PM): and thats beautiful to me
Led Ink (9:38:38 PM): the earth?
Led Ink (9:38:42 PM): we see it pretty differently
ishotscooby (9:38:58 PM): such as..?
Led Ink (9:39:14 PM): but then again, many philosophies of arian descent often can be perceived in different lights
Led Ink (9:39:23 PM): that's what philosophy and religion are all about
ishotscooby (9:39:32 PM): its very earth-centered...
Led Ink (9:40:22 PM): yeah, especially burial
Led Ink (9:40:34 PM): the mounds are beautiful
ishotscooby (9:40:44 PM): i'd like to read into it again
ishotscooby (9:40:50 PM): i read into a lot of different religions
ishotscooby (9:41:00 PM): i guess i was trying to find spirituality somewhere..
ishotscooby (9:41:03 PM): and never particularly did
Led Ink (9:41:09 PM): what level wiccan were you?
ishotscooby (9:41:11 PM): i'd be interested in looking into it again..
ishotscooby (9:41:14 PM): i didn't get into all that
ishotscooby (9:41:16 PM): i just read into it
ishotscooby (9:41:21 PM): and talked with some wiccans i knew
ishotscooby (9:41:36 PM): i observed some rituals, which i do not remember the names of
Led Ink (9:42:04 PM): oh
Led Ink (9:42:04 PM): i see
ishotscooby (9:42:16 PM): but i would be interested in looking into it again
ishotscooby (9:42:19 PM): so when did this happen?
Led Ink (9:42:25 PM): jerit is at level 5 reichtian wizard
Led Ink (9:42:29 PM): but he started first
Led Ink (9:42:50 PM): i'm pretty sure i'm level 2 gestapian apprentice
ishotscooby (9:42:56 PM): how did he meet his..mentor..?
Led Ink (9:43:04 PM): but i really don't even know enough yet to know how far along i am
Led Ink (9:43:48 PM): at the museum
ishotscooby (9:43:58 PM): what museum?
Led Ink (9:44:01 PM): but i don't even know if they call it that
Led Ink (9:44:04 PM): i think that'ts what he called it
Led Ink (9:44:13 PM): but i'm sure there's some technical jargon like every religion has
Led Ink (9:44:24 PM): wiccan has heirarchy too
ishotscooby (9:44:28 PM): well..
ishotscooby (9:44:28 PM): yeah
ishotscooby (9:44:34 PM): when did all this happen though?
Led Ink (9:45:12 PM): dec 7 i think
Led Ink (9:45:20 PM): why?
ishotscooby (9:45:35 PM): well cause over the past week maybe..a little less
ishotscooby (9:45:38 PM): he's been a complete hermit
ishotscooby (9:45:41 PM): so i was just wondering
Led Ink (9:47:04 PM): oh..he said he met some bush people
Led Ink (9:47:08 PM): maybe they're wiccan too
Led Ink (9:47:18 PM): cause he said they don't like stars at all
Led Ink (9:47:23 PM): so i guess maybe they like the earth instead?
ishotscooby (9:49:57 PM): are you completely fucking with me?
Led Ink (9:50:05 PM): what?
Led Ink (9:50:06 PM): no
Led Ink (9:50:09 PM): i have a question though
Led Ink (9:50:13 PM): can wiccan people eat meat?
ishotscooby (9:50:22 PM): i'm not exactly sure..
ishotscooby (9:50:26 PM): would you stop eating meat?
Led Ink (9:50:29 PM): cause the bush people that jerit know..they like to bake entire animals
Led Ink (9:50:35 PM): but that could just be cause they're from bush
ishotscooby (9:51:16 PM): well the few people i knew..
ishotscooby (9:51:17 PM): didn't do that
ishotscooby (9:51:18 PM): at least not that i know of
Led Ink (9:51:25 PM): oh
Led Ink (9:51:30 PM): well i wouldn't stop eating meat for religion
Led Ink (9:51:35 PM): plus i bet wiccans like hot dogs
Led Ink (9:51:39 PM): franks and all
ishotscooby (9:54:51 PM): wow
Led Ink (9:55:08 PM): ?
ishotscooby (9:55:19 PM): you're fucking with me
Led Ink (9:57:16 PM): how am i fucking with you?
Led Ink (9:57:28 PM): i'm just telling you what i know and have heard about wiccan
ishotscooby (9:57:29 PM): just seems as if youare
Led Ink (9:59:59 PM): maybe you just don't know enough yet
Led Ink (10:00:56 PM): maybe you're only level 1 komf
Led Ink (10:01:15 PM): sorry..jerit had to correct my spelling...kampf
ishotscooby (10:05:36 PM): did he do anything for the solstice?
Led Ink (10:06:40 PM): i think he went to the synagogue to have a field day
Led Ink (10:06:46 PM): or whatever you call those places
Led Ink (10:07:37 PM): do wiccans slaughter?
Led Ink (10:07:50 PM): i think he mentioned something about that at the synagogue
Led Ink (10:07:52 PM): or whatever
ishotscooby (10:08:40 PM): not that i know of..
Led Ink (10:08:47 PM): he did lots of burning too
Led Ink (10:08:52 PM): incense maybe?
ishotscooby (10:08:58 PM): they burn lots of candles and incense
Led Ink (10:09:09 PM): yeah i guess that's it..slaughter and burn
ishotscooby (10:09:30 PM): its for confining healing energy i believe
Led Ink (10:10:34 PM): i don't know if they were confining energy
ishotscooby (10:10:41 PM): has he done initiation?
Led Ink (10:10:41 PM): but they tend to confine the gas that is produced
Led Ink (10:10:43 PM): for later use
Led Ink (10:10:49 PM): with more slaughtering
Led Ink (10:10:53 PM): initiation?
Led Ink (10:10:55 PM): not sure
ishotscooby (10:11:13 PM): you're symbollically reborn as a wiccan..
Led Ink (10:11:18 PM): he says they put some bent cross on his shoulder
Led Ink (10:11:21 PM): only temporary though
ishotscooby (10:11:25 PM): i guess churches are different..
Led Ink (10:11:27 PM): not like a tattoo..i think it's just a band
ishotscooby (10:11:32 PM): but you sometimes adopt a new name
Led Ink (10:12:00 PM): ohh yeah..he said they do that
Led Ink (10:12:01 PM): but
Led Ink (10:12:08 PM): yeah he hasn't been fully initiated
Led Ink (10:12:10 PM): it's a process
ishotscooby (10:12:12 PM): ah
Led Ink (10:12:16 PM): so he chose a name..joseph
ishotscooby (10:12:16 PM): why a bent cross...
ishotscooby (10:12:19 PM): why not a pentacle..
Led Ink (10:12:29 PM): pentacle? no idea what that is
ishotscooby (10:12:38 PM): 5 point star in a circle
Led Ink (10:12:56 PM): his wiccan friends do not like stars
Led Ink (10:13:00 PM): remember?
Led Ink (10:13:07 PM): but maybe they only dislike 6 point ones
Led Ink (10:13:13 PM): i really don't know
ishotscooby (10:13:18 PM): yeah..definitely pentacles are part of it..
ishotscooby (10:13:21 PM): usually at least
ishotscooby (10:13:38 PM): and what the hell..the moon is a center of wicca
ishotscooby (10:13:45 PM): what about the cardinal directions?
ishotscooby (10:13:48 PM): and circles..?
ishotscooby (10:14:09 PM): generally from what i observed they do rituals in circles..as in the people form a circle
Led Ink (10:14:33 PM): circles...
Led Ink (10:14:46 PM): maybe
Led Ink (10:14:49 PM): i know they march
Led Ink (10:14:53 PM): cause i learned the march from jerit
Led Ink (10:15:08 PM): maybe they march and pray to the earth or something
Led Ink (10:15:17 PM): and slaughter and burn stuff and use the gas
ishotscooby (10:15:43 PM): maybe theres a difference between churches or something..
ishotscooby (10:15:53 PM): i don't remember anything about slaughtering..
ishotscooby (10:16:08 PM): i always saw wicca as peaceful..
Led Ink (10:16:26 PM): well
Led Ink (10:16:36 PM): the purpose of slaughtering is symbolic and realistic
Led Ink (10:16:44 PM): to get rid of negative things
ishotscooby (10:16:54 PM): slaughtering..animals?
Led Ink (10:16:57 PM): anything that pollutes the mind or even the earth
Led Ink (10:17:04 PM): certain ones, yes
Led Ink (10:17:16 PM): but it's also symbolic..like scapegoats once were
ishotscooby (10:17:25 PM): yeah
Led Ink (10:17:39 PM): except they don't kill goats..they have disdain for people who kill goats
Led Ink (10:17:46 PM): i don't know..it's weird
Led Ink (10:18:06 PM): maybe it's a different orthodox wiccan type thing
ishotscooby (10:18:11 PM): yeah
Led Ink (10:24:19 PM): ok well that's enough about that
Led Ink (10:24:23 PM): i think he enjoys it though
Led Ink (10:24:34 PM): he says if he keeps it up long enough, he'll get to go work at some camp
Led Ink (10:24:47 PM): run by wiccans
ishotscooby (10:25:01 PM): ah
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