results of the pay-site question
In my last message, I posted a copy of my Craigslist ad where I asked people about their results with pay sites. Here I'm posting the replies to that ad. I also tried posting it to Craigslist (it posted, but didn't show on the index page, so no one could see it), to a Craigstlist bulletin board, and e-mailed it to those who replied.
Here are the replies I received (except for a few "please share your results" messages). I removed names and cleaned up spelling, grammar, and so forth, because this is my message and I don't want it to look like crap.
- I have paid for adultfriendfinder and well it doesn't work either. It's like a 1000-to-1 male-to-female ratio. LOL. Only good part was a the pics around the world. LOL.
- The bottom line is: 99.9% of the "w4m" ads in "casual encounters" are spammers trying to get you to join their pay-for dating sites, most all of which are bait-and-switch sites (as I'm sure you've found out) and are a total waste of time.
If you want a FREE "dating" site, try plentyoffish.com .
Yes, it's really free. I didn't have much luck on it, myself... but then that's just me.
If you've read enough ads on Craigslist, you soon are able to figure out which ones are spam (just from the titles). Just avoid them -- they're a waste of time. They just want your credit card number.
Best of luck on your search!
- I doubt anything linked from Craigslist ad-bots is worthwhile, but I've had great luck on AdultFriendFinder.com over the years.
'Great luck' in the sense that thousands of messages over 10 years has yielded about 50 real life adventures. Actually I met my wife there and we have adventures together now :) So the odds are a little slim, but you can make it up in volume!
If you are really persistent, have an intelligent presentation and good photos, and mentally sort out the scams, there is gold in them there hills!
I've met a handful of women and couples on Craigslist, in fact I have a coffee date with one later today.
Happy hunting and good luck!
- I've joined a few and have gotten a few hits. Haven't got laid yet. I guess the money issue kind of pisses you off a bit but is actually not much worse than buying a girl a drink or two in a bar and hoping you get lucky. The ones, both Craigs List and the others have gals who expect to be showered with gifts and such before they come across. You may as well pony up $200 and get a pro.
- I have found that if it sounds too good to be true it normally is.
- I am a guy too. I am tired of all the fake ladies in craigs list. Are there any real ones? About to give up on the whole Craigslist thing. Maybe us guys should get together instead. I just wrote to two gals and got Yahoo auto responses that link to sex sites. Sigh. I am into sex and bdsm. If you know anyone interested, have them email or give me a call. I have never done a guy before but think it would be fun to dominate one.
- Why bother with pay sites when you are a woman and can have your pic of any of us guys out here?
[I knew someone would fail to read the note at the beginning.]
Disregard last message. I misread your ad. Sorry.
- I've experienced this crap from every area within "relationships/romance" on Craigslist. Don't waste your time or money. The sites are all crap too! My buddy did hook up with a chick from Fling, but she was no winner in my book. I paid for a membership at a site, not recruited for by Craigs hags, it's called forplaymag.com and the folks are real. Sure most of the HOT chicks are part of a couple (NOT ALL), but who cares if you're just wanting to bone HOT chicks. I have managed to hook up with a nice, and nice looking, chick within 30 miles of home after 6 days on there. (Got to post a photo though.) I didn't at first and had no responses. An older woman in Portland contacted me, pointed out my error, and guess what? Yep, I drove all the way down there to thank her in person. (She was real and I was horned up looking-searching-dreaming about all this FAKE Craigslist shit!!!) she was almost a BBW, but better than bullshit on Craigslist!!! Anyway another site I'm getting hits on is webwatchers.com , but haven't gotten laid off there yet. If you hear of something better let me know, bro.
- I signed up for one of them once, and it is just a rip-off... Even on Craigslist, all I get is spam, and I don't know if there is actually a real person on here besides me :)))
It is so bad that I wouldn't be surprised if you are spam too!
- I've been using the Internet for dating over the last few years. I've been on at least a dozen dates and I've met several women for just sex.
I've looked over those sites and I've been a member of a couple of those off-brand websites. They're a total rip-off and they're using Craigslist to stay afloat, like a parasite.
This is how those sites work.
You sign up as a free member. Then you'll get dozens of emails from "women", but you can't respond to them until you've paid your dues. Then once you pay the emails will stop. Most of the female profiles on those sites are fake. In fact, I've heard some of these Off-Brand websites are outsourced to India. There, employees are paid to post fake profiles and send emails to non-paying members.
There's a site called Sexsearch and that's what happened to me. Everything on that site was fake. This has been the only site that I paid for a membership. I learned my lesson from this site.
I've been a member of other websites and somehow the system it's self will send emails from one member to another member (I can't remember those websites name). Like shadow emails.
Each one of these sites has it's own method for trying to lure in paying members.
The only sites you can remotely trust are AFF, Match, e-Harmony, and Plenty of Fish. These sites are so big that they don't really don't need to scam in paying members. Their large membership base and rep does the work for them. Still, there are far more men than women on these websites.
- I'm just replying because I am in the same boat as you, apparently, and thought your post was sort of funny (where you posted, mainly...)
My experience has been very similar to yours, it sounds like.
Craigslist earns you lots and lots of ads for free accounts with dating and 'fling' type sites. Those 'free' accounts send you lots and lots of emails and ads for signing up with their 'low' cost/basic package membership... which, after you sign up for, send you ads and emails for their higher cost/'premium' membership status.
It's all the same results, for the most part, all the way up. You do meet more women online, and get more responses, if you pay money. however, it seems that there are far more men out there looking to get laid than women.
Women can afford to be a little more picky -- so you end up with either women who already have dates/partners, or the women who, um, ... can't afford to be as picky.
Honestly, I've had just about the same amount of luck as members on these sites as I have going out and meeting someone in a bar. (Choose the place carefully though.) And really, for all the time that you spend 'hunting' for that woman online -- emails, posts, pics, chat, etc. -- you're better off spending that time, investing that time really working on one chick that you meet in person somewhere. It takes more character, I think more energy, but I end up with similar results to online stuff anyways.
But who am I to talk? Look where I am right now, hunting for a fling...
on Craigslist.
- The only one worth a damn is Plenty of Fish. I have had two relationships off of the site and it is free.
- I'm a guy, also, and the way I do it is; I never pay for or give my credit card to any of those sites because they are just making money off innocent people with hopes of finding what they are looking for. You can meet and talk with women on bom.com for free, I mean actually free, no credit card or anything.
Don't pay, that's for young people who get sucked in, there are several sites that are free, it just takes a while to find them.
On Craigs List, if there is a web address in the ad, it's a waste of time.
Good luck. I hope you find what you're looking for.
- I am a normal guy and adult friend finder is a good one to pay for. If you are an attractive guy you will have no problem getting laid there.
My personal results:
- In about a month on Craigslist, I met one woman in person. It was a friend-date because we'd figured out that we weren't hookup or relationship material in the course of e-mail, but were good friend material.
- I have one friend-date planned, clearly sincere, but difficult to schedule. Although it's planned as a friend-date, she may have more in mind.
- I've also made a few e-mail friends who I suspect will remain e-mail friends, then disappear after a while.
- I had four "yes" replies to hookups that didn't happen -- two because I got bad vibes, one because the woman decided she didn't want to wait for me to drive to Seattle after someone else who lived closer replied, and one because I decided she was either a prostitute who hadn't yet named a price or the most insanely improbable hook-up ever.
- Before hearing about Craigslist personals, I met women elsewhere on the net, way back into the dark ages -- well back into the 1980s. I never had any luck with anything meant for dating, but I had a fair amount of luck with non-dating things related to other interests.
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