Republican campaign Mavens have promised a relaunch of their overall presidential campaign once Mitt steals the nomination. ' We're all going to see a new Mitt emerge', one said under strict conditions of anonymity, ' We will all see a new Romulan man emerging out from under the crushing weight of all previous generations.
A 'mittamorphus' if you will. The mittmentum will then be so enormous that the expropriator will be expropriated'. Cue ' On the road' mad-to-live quote.
Discovering dialectics in nature
Tea Partiers don’t crap on police cars or have public sex under a tarp. Losers.
I call Adrian Benepe, NYC Parks Commish, the grass nazi.
He’s a nasty excuse for a human.
He wouldn’t let and of the multi-hundred thousand antiwar protesters into Central Park in 2003 bc they’d just resodded it.
Grass is, dontcha know, much more impt than peace or speech.
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dosido October 13th, 2011 at 3:38 pm 18
In response to eCAHNomics @ 17
sod off! LOL. Did you tell him this is a grassroots movement?
And there are more FBI and CIA agents pretending to be al-Qaeda at this point then there are actual al-Qaeda operatives. World wide wired wildness won't work with any treacherous, neo-marxist, criminal gang. That’s dangerous and foolish. I love those kids who have stuck it out from the very beginning when the chips were stacked against them. They’re the First Occupiers and they should be very proud. They mostly think capitalism is a GOOD idea, to say nothing of freedom and democracy, they just think the system is broken.”
The one thing that links all of us 99% is the Internet. Oh, and pizza. A cuisine not unlike the Occupy Wall Street movement itself: free-form, eclectic, improvisatory and contradictory.
Requests for food go out on Twitter and various Web sites sympathetic to the protesters. And somehow, in spontaneous waves, day after day, the food pours in.
I support what people are doing here,” professor rat said. “And who doesn’t love nookie?”
Robert Strype, 29, a protester from the Poughkeepsie, N.Y., area who was wearing a T-shirt that expressed his displeasure with Monsanto, said that anger about practices like factory farming and the genetic modification of vegetables was one of the factors that had roused him and some of his fellow occupiers. “Food plays a huge part in this movement,” he said. “Because people are tired of being fed poison.”
Basically, we the people (the 99%) need to be firmly in the driver’s seat when the time comes to move from making a statement to making demands. If Egyptians were able to stand firm long enough to oust their old US backed corrupt dictator, we should be able to stand firm long enough to lay out a vision for a radically better world and demand what is needed to achieve it.
AND finally! OWS supporters are turning up to rallies with guns...oh wait...sorry. That was Tea partiers. My bad. Invasion of the Body Snatchers comes to mind.
We don’t have to unite on everything, but we could unite on the goal of abolishing Chimeria by 2016.
There’s an unspoken strategy at play here, I think – the strategy is the memes. There are several floating around. The most potent one I think is the concept that a democracy on sale to the highest bidder is not a legitimate form of government. It’s right up there with the divine right of kings.
The problem for the PtB is that it is not easy to have the social media differentially go black. Ask Hosni Mubarak how cutting the internet connections into Egypt worked for him. The movement was able to use the network outside Egypt and phone lines into Egypt to keep organizing. But lots of business message could neither go out nor come in, hobbling the Egyptian economy.
The best description of it that I have seen is that it’s a peasant rebellion against debt and penury, not a workers rebellion. So all of the 150-year old analysis of how workers rebellions proceed to reform or revolution might not apply. It is anti-capitalist in effect, not in philosophy..'
We “should” (hate those hortatories, but there you go again) each express our own sentiments in our own language. Example:
To fellow netizens occupying Wall Street and peoples protesting across the world:
We stand with you in this struggle for real democracy. Together we can end the capture and corruption of power by party, corporate and wealthy elites, and hold police directly accountable.
In order to serve the public interest we now stad united – the time for change has come!
Your milage may vary.
As my wealthy pal said to me the other day. The Vichycrats and the Retardicans have only one job now and that’s to protect his ( class’s) MONEY. As far as he’s concerned, so far they’ve done a decent job. As for the 99% and their money not so much. The predatory classes ( the foxes) are now in charge of the hen house.
How does a society allow 46 million live in poverty and 50 million without health insurance and 24 million unemployed and say it is just?
Corporate Sodomy, enabled by the undue influence of monied interests on the political process!
The policies and platforms can wait for now, even for a year.
As the movement grows simply from its own accord, pressure is brought on the system to adapt/change, FORCED PRESSURE, without any agendas.
I really believe change has already begun, huge change . . . we’re just seeing the first ripples . . .
The future will be won by both young and old acting together to multiply their strengths.
In fact the original message of OWS is brilliant and is the only demand. how do we create a society where it is not controlled by the few? that is the leap forward otherwise it more of the same. “meet the new boss same as the old boss and potentially worse”
Our history to date has been one of leaders controlling the masses and with a few exceptions it has sucked for the masses. If history shows anything is that this movement need to avoid having leaders. WTF do we need them for? There are ways that can devised where everyone can participate and have say on what matters. Sure we will need people to execute these things, but we can put tight controls in that they do not turn that into taking power. We can do this, and if other countries also start to initiate this we can change the planet so it works for us and we work to protect her.
This is not some utopian dream because the truth is and some are more aware of this than others we live on a finite planet, with finite not infinite resources We better learn to adapt that as it is showing clear signs of maxing out.
OWS people are not ignorant and definitely not apathetic. It is easy for them to see the Democrats for what they are. Agents of the 1%. Neither the legacy Parties nor the corporate media have any influence with people who are awakened. The Oligarchy is busy trying to prevent the collapse of Western Capitalism at the same time that they are losing control of the people. Personally, I don’t think we should ask anything of the people who want to enslave us. I think we should destroy them.
Fuck the fucking fucks, ALL of them fucking fucks. Especially this stupid fuck.
Jeff Kaye October 12th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
In response to TarheelDem @ 31
Very interesting, astute observations, TD. I have often thought the OWS reminded me of jaqueries, albeit of the non-bloody variety. Actually, Marxist theoreticians, especially Marx himself, looked long and hard at the history of what they called the petit bourgeois or peasant uprisings and revolutions. Marx’s writings on the 1848 revolutions, mostly democratic rebellions against the remnants of absolutism (and some nationalist uprisings, too), are worth reading, for those looking to gain some lessons from the past to apply creatively to the new, but not entirely new, circumstances of the present.
In fact, it was from examining the peasant and sans-culottes rebellions that the early Marxists determined that the state apparatus could not be reformed, but had to be dismantled, and replaced with a new state apparatus that operated in protection of collectivized property (means of production, not people’s iPads or clothing). The police were in the pay of the state, and so long as that state protects the property rights of its ruling class or elite, they are agents of that state.
Finally, any serious student of revolution and radical change has to have studied the nature of counter-revolution and ruling class oppression. Unless one plans for that, “slow death” will be preferred to the Iron Heel that will come down upon all of our skulls. In many ways, the deformations of Leninism were foreordained because it was itself a response to organizing radical work in absolutist Tsarist Russia, under the eyes of its pervasive secret police, the Okhrana. They had to be hard and conspiratorial to achieve their aims. We may not need that. In the end, Leninism gave way to its bizarro cousin, Stalinism, where politics became all about paranoid struggle (or maybe not completely paranoid, as Nazisim grew up right along side it).
I’ve been thinking lately we need something between the Fabian strategy of holding back and only acting when there’s an opening and when and where they are weak, and a bold strategy necessitating strong organization and bold, but strategic action. Of course, the OWS campaigns may have preempted all of my little ideas and conceptions. I’m open to that. In the end, who cares what I think? But I care about change and making it happen. And while I am not in a place where I can abandon my patients to take up the time to seriously intervene in the OWS itself, I do think it’s worth noting my thoughts and criticisms as I can. They can be ignored, or they may offer some food for thought for those interested in advancing the struggle towards real, lasting change.
“There were two ‘Reigns of Terror’, if we could but remember and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passions, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon a thousand persons, the other upon a hundred million; but our shudders are all for the “horrors of the… momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty and heartbreak? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief terror that we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror – that unspeakable bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”
Mark Twain, writing about the French Revolution,
in A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court
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